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Re: FULL LED SONY 65ZD9 4K HDR

Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2016 10:07 am
by Tokiorace

Re: FULL LED SONY 65ZD9 4K HDR

Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2016 11:42 pm
by Tokiorace
Un commentaire à considérer le propriétaire:
I know you folks want all sorts of technical details and pics, but I'm more of a "how does the picture really look" than a technical person. I'm certainly interested is some of the technical details that might affect the picture quality, even if not obvious with a regular image, but ultimately, it's the picture that counts.

The 65 Z9D picture quality is simply incredible. I spend hours watching it last night and this morning. What impressed me most was the depth and clarity of the image. The blacks were truly impressive as was the brightness of the image without any blooming or blown highlights that I could see. Colors were incredibly rich and pure looking. The animated Blu-ray movies I checked never looked better. The black levels and color fidelity of my Z9D are so beautiful, it's hard to imagine it being much better. And given what I think is superior shadow detail and motion handling of this set compared to the OLED's I've seen, I can't imagine being more satisfied with any other set.

I understand that these terms can be nebulous and very subjective. I've heard many people describe a 3D quality to an image. I've never been able to see that, until now. The picture just seems to be more "alive" and "vibrant" than any previous display I've seen. I'm wondering is this appearance is due to the greater local contrast from the master back light drive.

As good as my Sony 950B is (was), the 65Z9D is better. Earlier this year, to get HDR, I purchased the Sony 65" 930D. I knew I was trading FALD on the 950B for Sony's new Slim Backlight Drive. I had hoped it would be good enough. In the store, the 930D looked OK, but didn't cause me to swoon. Sadly, within an hour of setting it up at home, I knew I had made a mistake. The picture was good, but not nearly good enough when compared to my 950B. It lacked a vibrancy and clarity I had come to expect with my 950B. It was returned.

Enter the Z9D. In the store, even with terrible ambient lighting, I sensed a special quality to the image that really excited me. Throughout the evening of viewing many different sources, I was continually saying "wow" to myself. I know this is very subjective, and maybe I'm full of it, but this is one gorgeous display, even better than I expected. I saw absolutely no imperfections. Even if, when you folks do more sophisticated testing that I can do, you find a slight negative, I don't believe it would change my opinion of the image quality.

I'll be interested in hearing what other owners say about this display. I think it's the best set that Sony has every produced.

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Re: FULL LED SONY 65ZD9 4K HDR

Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2016 1:23 pm
by Tokiorace
Également à l'événement tenu à Shanghai, un modèle commémoratif spécial 65ZD9G de Sony a annoncé, avec une production limitée de 200 unités au Japon et a été faite d'or et de platine (lunette et arrière) et un verre de revêtement saphir pour augmenter le niveau de noir et de contraste:

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Re: FULL LED SONY 65ZD9 4K HDR

Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2016 8:59 pm
by HYMER DAXTER
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Re: FULL LED SONY 65ZD9 4K HDR

Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2016 7:28 am
by Tokiorace
having gone thru a few setup screens etc with white text over black background, i can make a few ridiculously premature comments about the PQ. black is v good but prob not quite at the level of my former E6. blooming seems very well controlled on axis - see pic. offaxis there is a bit more. difficult to capture either way bc camera either hides it or greatly exaggerates the effect. brightness not overwhelming at all so far. again, that is all OOTB. more later when it gets dar
watching champs league qualifier now. wow Sony motion is sooo nice. motion flow off. clear upgrade on the OLED.
too soon to say about blacks. re:uniformity - grass is not greener. no banding but some DSE. hoping it will improve.
colors are excellent OOTB. combined with the excellent motion, it makes for a very natural looking picture. tons of headroom for brightness. haven't tried HDR yet.
Jump in brightness is v noticeable and welcome although tbf i never considered the E6 to be dim.

Just watched a bit of the last Harry Potter BD and it looked spectacular. based on brief viewing, im thinking near blacks are better than OLED. still too soon to be sure.
can't get over how good the potter movie looks on this. thinking local dimming must have been off when I first posted bc these blacks are really really good. transitions from black to just above black are seamless. no crush!
uverse, which is about as bad as it gets. ive been paying close attention to dark content, and so far i haven't noticed any of the macro blocking that I saw on the E6. while it's premature to draw conclusions, i do think up scaling is better. sorry. Ugh...i really hate sounding like a Sony fanboy.
i already have most of the LG demos on a flash drive. so far, the thing I'm most surprised by is not how much better this or the E6 is but how similar they look most of the time. Z9 really could pass for an OLED if you didn't know any better. both are amazing with good quality content
black bars are black. disappear in a dark room
one thing fald will never do as well as oleds - star fields. on the sharp saturn's rings demo, the oled was almost like being outside at night and looking up. z9 the blacks are black but stars are not quite as bright.
Seulement, il indique que a une certaine DSE.

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Re: FULL LED SONY 65ZD9 4K HDR

Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2016 9:13 am
by filmovor
Je sais par expérience que les Screenshots ne reflètent pas la réalité .

Il faut impérativement jugé en live dans des conditions de visionnement qui se rapprochent au plus prés de l utilisation que l on aura dans son environnement si possible .

Mais c est toujours plus facile a dire qu a réalisé malheureusement .

Pour en revenir a ma phrase de début j ai l impression de déceler du blooming encadrant la prise de courant .

Mais comme je le disais ne pas se fier aux Screenshots .

De par son test Nicolas répondra a toutes nos interrogations .

Re: FULL LED SONY 65ZD9 4K HDR

Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2016 9:58 am
by Piksimou
Le packaging fait un peu cheap... Avec la notice derrière un bout de polystyrène et les piles qui tombent... Ça ne fait pas très hdg comme emballage. Surtout pour une tv a 5000 euros...

Re: FULL LED SONY 65ZD9 4K HDR

Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2016 10:37 am
by Tokiorace
Review: http://www.whathifi.com/sony/kd-65zd9bu/review

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Re: FULL LED SONY 65ZD9 4K HDR

Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2016 10:46 am
by fastitr
Ca c'est fait : There’s no escaping the fact that the Samsung 65KS9000 offers a better picture at a much lower price. :worried:

Re: FULL LED SONY 65ZD9 4K HDR

Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2016 10:52 am
by Tokiorace
fastitr wrote:Ca c'est fait : There’s no escaping the fact that the Samsung 65KS9000 offers a better picture at a much lower price. :worried:
Je n'aime pas les couleurs du téléviseur Samsung, j'aime Sony et Panasonic, et même OLED.