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fgero wrote:
Value Electronics va faire son "4K TV shootout 2016", une comparaison directe (même signal en parallèle) des meilleurs TV de l'année :
• Sony XBR-75X940D (seul 75")
• Samsung UN65KS9800 (c'est notre UE65KS9500 Full LED)
• LG 65UH9500
• LG OLED65G6P OLED TV
• Vizio 65” R series
• Hisense 65" H10C

Cela va avoir lieu aujourd'hui et surtout demain (3pm-9pm eastern)

http://www.avsforum.com/forum/40-oled-t ... -week.html

http://ceweekny.com/

Je suppose que les résultats seront sur leur site, et qu'il y aura une vidéo sur le Tube, comme en 2015 visiblement.

imagic wrote:

KidHorn wrote:

It would also be nice to do the comparison out of the box using standard settings and then calibrated. I would guess many won't have their TVs professionally calibrated.

I don't know how any one can judge color accuracy without knowing what the original content looks like. Maybe they need to have a video camera point at an image and see how close the TVs look to the image or take pictures and display the .jpegs on the TVs.

That's an interesting point. These days I've seen a significant improvement in out of the box color in movie/cinema mode, with some TVs being effectively calibrated as-is. Most people will not have a pro do a calibration, especially if the TV already looks great. Furthermore, there's some question as to the value of "dark room settings" since 85% of viewers (almost) never shut off all the lights when watching TV. Indeed, I recently saw a KS9800 in a dark room, set to 200 nits (58 foot-lamberts) peak illumination in rec.709 mode and I suspect many viewers would go for that over 100 nits (29 fL) or 120 nits (35 fL). 35 foot-lambert peak luminance strikes me as a number that's a relic of the plasma era and judging TVs calibrated based on dark-room viewing conditions is a behavior associated with the limitations of those plasmas and not a reflection of actual viewing habits and real-world use scenarios.

Besides, remember that with a TV in a dark room, you are always supposed to have some bias lighting. Blacked-out rooms are for projection. At the shootout, the TVs are next to each other and kind of act as bias lights for the other TVs.

A final note on peak brightness and legacy technology... when it comes to projection, at a recent Barco event I learned that the 14 foot-lambert theatrical standard does not exist to protect viewer's sensitive eyes. It exists because that was a lowest common denominator that took into account the reality of commercial projection for the masses. Producer Jerry Bruckheimer and director Micheal Bay have their home theater rigs calibrated with peak brightness of 45 foot-lamberts (154 nits), and not for HDR but rather from SDR DCI content (granted, with P3 color).

These TVs are utterly capable of being the best rec.709 displays yet, and that includes the FALD LCDs. At 35 fL you are playing to the strengths of the emissive displays and essentially hobbling the FALD LCDs. I understand this is an unsettled matter in an evolving industry, but it's worth noting that video guru Joe Kane discussed something similar on a recent HTG episode. He suggests that SDR should take full advantage of the added brightness and wide color gamut of the latest displays and that it would in fact look better than HDR is given the opportunity.

Fun stuff and certainly food for thought.

AlexScan wrote:Super comparo, une fois le HDR+ bien réglé avec le optimal contrast en "Bas" le Samsung est vraiment très proche du OLED en terme de lisibilité dans les zones sombres (et un peu dans tous le reste aussi).

Même si ça reste une vidéo capté par un caméscope on peux voir que les différences sont faibles, seul hic pour moi il aurai pu calibré les deux écrans pareil, parce que là soit le Samsung est trop chaud soit le Oled est trop froid mais ça ne va pas !

When the presenter 1st noticed it, he blamed it on himself as something that happened while transportating the tv. He didn't realize what it actually was. But I knew right away

That is amazing to me they could not have a non-defective set. That could cost Samsung a lot of money and business for this years Flagship 9800 model. I know it still makes me a little uneasy about purchasing one but all the other reviews I've seen on the 9800 have been great.

fgero wrote:A ma connaissance il n'est pas encore disponible en France, et relativement peu en Europe. Un peu plus aux US (KS9800) si on lit les forums.
Le E6V étant à 7000€, il n'est plus du tout dans la même catégorie de prix (environ 4500€ à prévoir pour le KS9500.

Il faut espérer que c'est pour améliorer leur Quality Control, car apparemment au shootout récent la dalle n'était pas au top :

When the presenter 1st noticed it, he blamed it on himself as something that happened while transportating the tv. He didn't realize what it actually was. But I knew right away

That is amazing to me they could not have a non-defective set. That could cost Samsung a lot of money and business for this years Flagship 9800 model. I know it still makes me a little uneasy about purchasing one but all the other reviews I've seen on the 9800 have been great.

fgero wrote:En dehors du prix, il y a aussi le traitement vidéo LG qui n'est pas au niveau pour l'usage TV (full HD), apparemment.
Après, si tu peux mettre 7000€ pour un usage uniquement Blu-ray, pas de problème 8)